McDonalds Shooting in MA …
Crazy guy has a 10-inch knife in McD’s … waving it around and threatening people. Police arrive, shoot the guy, and he goes to the hospital. The story itself isn’t all that interesting, but what IS completely fascinating is the fact that the Police had means to stop this guy, and all of the people in McDonald’s didn’t … observe …
A female employee called police at about 7:40 p.m. asking for assistance. Officers responded and saw the man sitting in the restaurant that was filled with other customers as well. He refused to put down the knife when police asked, Monfette said.
Of course, nobody had a gun to defend themselves there. What about non-lethal self defense?
Officers tried to subdue him with two canisters of a chemical spray, but it did not stop him, Monfette said.
“He lunged at one police officer (with the knife) and another one shot at him,” Monfette said.
And there you have it. One method doesn’t work, the other method does. Crystal clear.
Liberty on July 23rd 2008 in Boomsticks!
Jeff responded on 23 Jul 2008 at 12:36 pm #
There are people in MA with concealed handguns, just not as many as freer states. The article doesn’t mention him actually attacking anyone. If I was there, I wouldn’t have drawn on him. My handgun is for the defense of myself and my loved ones. I’m not a police officer and I have no desire to be one. I’m very appreciative and thankful of the job they do. Given the legal climate here, I’m not going to intervene unless I have a reasonable belief that someone innocent faces imminent harm. The fact that the officers used chemical spray first says that that didn’t happen.
Liberty responded on 23 Jul 2008 at 12:55 pm #
Hey Jeff,
I certainly wouldn’t argue those points. Nobody knows what happened for sure. This has all the makings of someone menacing not wanting to move from his seat though nobody knows if, when, or how many times he may have been asked to.
I think my point in posting this in the first place revolves more around people suggesting “non-lethal” measures above anything else because of an inherent fear of the whole “wild west” thing. Non-lethal methods tend not to work, this story illustrates that pretty clearly.
Liberty responded on 23 Jul 2008 at 12:59 pm #
And by the way … yer on the blogroll, man! ;-)
Weer'd Beard responded on 23 Jul 2008 at 7:49 pm #
Another Case of OC Spray not working.
I really don’t like that stuff. Its better than nothing, but not somthing I’d ever stake my life on.